I seen Felicia's pic on write a prisoner.com and thought she was beautiful then i come here and see the real felicia...she used somebody elses pic that's for sure
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Without parental guidance, they lived wild and free at an early age, but murder will keep them locked up for years.
"They were all discussing it," she said. "Mostly Kim and [Jillian]. I think it was [Jillian] who said it." When asked about what happened to Gorenman's fruit after the murder, Marjorie said, referring to herself, Kim, and Jillian, "I believe we ate that."
In addition, Marjorie told the courtroom that she and the other girls had ingested some combination of alcohol (possibly Hennessy), weed, and crystal meth that night. That lent no credibility to her already shaky memory. She couldn't recall the model of the car she was driving. She didn't know what time she had been interviewed by investigators just a few days before the hearing. She wavered a lot.
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The prosecution wasn't relying on Marjorie's testimony alone, though. One of the pizza parlor guys, Talal Jaber, and Sanford had told cops about how Jillian told them the murder was only supposed to be a robbery. Jaber and Sanford backed off those statements at the hearing, but the damage was done.
When the hearing concluded six days later, the D.A. — perhaps because the girls were so young and the case so complicated — offered plea deals. And the defendants, who would have been looking at 25 years to life if they went to trial (where there was no telling what new evidence might come out), certainly had incentive to accept.
The prosecution believed that Felicia brought the gun, Jillian brought Gorenman, and Kim pulled the trigger. That, combined with the overwhelming amount of evidence Jillian had delivered against herself, determined the varying sentences offered in the plea bargains.
Kim was offered 21 years for voluntary manslaughter and use of a deadly weapon. Felicia was offered eight — six for voluntary manslaughter and another two for providing the gun. Jillian — who had cooperated with police, and who had not provided or used the gun — was offered 11 years for voluntary manslaughter. Marjorie, the lookout, was free to go. She's now engaged, employed, and living a quiet life with her fiancé.
Jillian was shocked and offended to be offered a worse deal than Felicia, who had provided the murder weapon. Still, she took the plea. "I'm terrified by our justice system," she says. "Innocent people get convicted every single day, and I just broke."
At 24 years old, Jillian has been incarcerated since May 5, 2005. She'll be at the county jail for another couple of months, and then she'll be transferred to a women's prison, where she'll be among the youngest and most vulnerable inmates. With credit for time served, she'll be there for about seven years, which, she's quick to point out, is nowhere close to as long as the Gorenmans will be without their son. Still, it's a while.
She'll pass much of her time reading, she says, and is already devouring the Twilight series, about a young woman who falls in love with a vampire. It's not scary, she says, which is the only reason she can read it. She hates scary movies and violence and gore. Sanford backed this up in court: "I get pissed off and smack the cat and she's crying about it," he once announced. She does come off like a softie, and even Pera says she believes Jillian feels genuinely sorry about what happened.
The biggest tragedy of all, Pera says, is clearly that of the Gorenman family. But the situation of the throwaway girls is also tragic. "They are these kids on the street, living adult lives," she says. "Kids that are raised in dysfunctional families like they were have very short childhoods. I think childhood is so painful for them that there's a tendency to want to grow up quicker just to get away."
Although she disputes Marjorie's damning testimony and points out inconsistencies, Jillian does admit she made mistakes. On the night that Kim kicked the woman while attempting to rob her, Jillian says she wishes she had challenged her more about the violence. On the night of the murder, she wishes she had been more alert and less afraid.
Although she owns up to lying to investigators and sugarcoating the story here and there, Jillian still denies having any knowledge that Gorenman would be robbed or shot that night. When asked if she would believe her own story if she heard it from somebody else, she doesn't hesitate. Her voice is unwavering, her big brown eyes intensely focused. "Being through this, I would," she says.
Whether you believe Jillian or not, she certainly seems to believe herself.
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I was doing research on serial killers when I came across this article. The title attracted me, but after reading the article, the jump head about loose parenting seems off, way off. Bad parenting hardly describes the level of abuse and neglect and corrupt family life described here. Failed by their parents, clearly, but also failed in general by every institution expected to provide for and protect children. Then again they might have turned out as thieves and killers regardless. It's hard to say but I predict more killer girl packs as we now know that girls and women are as morally corruptible and capable of violence as boys and men, "we" just go about it differently. One thing girls know, a pretty face can hide a multitude of wicked motives and actions. Three pretty girls mocked and seemed to want to assault me on the 21 Hayes a few years ago. I let them know, I won't go down easy. I'm glad they backed off but one thing helped me, I think. Awareness -- the pretty faces did not blindside me because it is clear that violence can come from any quarter, any person, anytime and anyplace. Sadly, this is how we live now. Be unimpressed by faces and other external attributes!
Im sure they were all very pretty when they did their "milking". This is a fascinating story and one all too typical of throw away girls.
Somebody say throw away girls? Like the sweet ones in Columbia 's lush crack fields you mean?
I don't find any of them beautiful and Felicia is down right hideous. Selfish little b*tches who all deserve life in prison.
Not only beauty but brains, what a novel way to get a new cell phone. A stolen credit card!!w000000000weeeeeeeeeeeee.
I agree completely with Steve and Whoeffincares. What a shallow title for this article. I see only ugliness in these selfish losers who couldn't do anything better with their lives than murder in cold blood an innocent person. I don't need a sob story or an elaborate description of their eyes and hair. I only need to hear that they will be kept from hurting other innocent people EVER again. My deepest condolences to the family of Eugene Gorenman.
Maybe they killed the little russian jew because they were disapointed in his package....
Did you see how UGLY the 3rd one was?That was the one who pulled the trigger...(We KNOW no one wanted to bang THAT....)
I agree with Steve. Cut the b.s. These girls are mean, evil witches who killed an innocent man. They deserve life since they took a life. Why did this writer spend so much time talking about their so-called beauty and youth? There is nothing beautiful about these young women. Our society is too shallow. Maybe if people didn't praise them for this so-called beauty, they wouldn't feel they could "milk" people. It doesn't matter if they are "ugly" or whatever. Evil is evil.
the only sad story here is the mother and father who lost their only son. the girls are nothing but evil selfish conniving bitches. even after getting caught and convicted they STILL can't get their story straight-I don't feel a bit sorry for them. plenty of kids have rough childhoods and they don't grow up to be murdering savages. the only down side here is that they may one day get out of jail and be free to do it all again.
This is a sad story..I hope to see someone produce a crime documentary about it on ID channel or something..
This is truly a sad story....in many ways. It should be written as a true-crime type book and be required reading in our schools/colleges.
Law Enforcement workers at Jillians jail doing a double take? I seriously doubt it! I have read more interesting stories in a high school English class. Whoever wrote this piece needs to take a few night courses. Jillian was the bait, and always the bait in these schemes. She is moderately attractive at best, but seems to be great at manipulating people including the hack that posted this story.They committed premeditated murder ALL FOUR OF THEM! 21 years max? Wow remind me to send the prosecutor a thank you card for offering a deal to lighten his caseload. According to whats offered as evidence they had enough to convict at least 2 of them for life if not the three. They ate his frigging fruit after killing him, but Jillian really does have a good heart PFT! Check you facts Jillian ate the fruit too Jillian wasn't afraid of Kim when she was getting high at the house they broke into afterwards, or when she was getting her nails done, or sleeping on his sheets. Jillian is just as sick and guilty as the others. Part of my hopes she keeps stating innocence, that she never asks forgiveness. That way when gutter rat dies she busts hell wide open.Justice was not served my heart breaks for that man and his family the city screwed them all over.
Manslaughter? How the fuck did these girls get off so easily? Only 11 years? What the fuck. Since the writer seems so in love with these bitches, I wonder if he/she would like to live next door to these murderers when they get out.
I am not saying what these girls did is right but i do know yal all are putting done the parents for the way these girls was raised well i can not say how the other 2 was but felicia has a loving family. Her mother was a wonderful person and had went to be with god at a early age. Felicia then rebled and would not let the family take care of her which any child losing there mother would do. I do want felicia to know there is family that loves u very much but does not feel what you did was right I wish the best for u and u know where to find us You do not have to feel you are alone in this world.
Damn Jillian you did make yourself sound like a freakin' idiot or at least a lying B!^@#. I used to tell you things always catch up to us. I never thought this of you though; crazy that we crossed paths I'm greatful I was never one of your victims. I can't help but feel bad for the kids who's mom is now in prison. I mean they lost a parent and potential role model too. i do blame society a little bit because society is so broken and continues to fester a system that is anti family, but man p.s. the writer was terrible it was as though Jillian wrote it herself. lol
You know I am SURE I had a 3-way with Jillian & Kim years back when I was in SF! They charged me but man, what Jillian can to with those "bow lips" of hers! She really got into Kim too, who was multi-orgasmic and quite the screamer!
I do not understand young people today;who come from questionable backgrounds,of abuse,parents on drugs,neglect and so forth;and instead of rising above the situation(which can be done),they wallow in self pity,and 'I came from a broken home and my people did drugs,that is why I did what I did'. BS,you do what you do,good or bad and you have to live with it.They knew that what they were about to do was wrong,they had been doing it for awhile;the wrong things in life;now they will have the majority of their young life to contemplate what they need to better themselves when they come out of prison,down the road.They will be more mature,and maybe they will realize what they did was 'dead' wrong!
This is a great piece and fascinating, but why are they called "beautiful," just to make it more interesting? I'm no Brad Pitt myself, but I'm not afraid to call the kettle black. All three are rather unattractive at best.
To suggest that these girls are "victims" is absurd. They knew right from wrong and they are hardly the only ones to have had a rough childhood.
They took a life. They are not safe for society.
Kimberly Gutierrez, Felicia Mehrara,Jillian McIlvenna,should be sentenced to death.They have no human value.
There is no question about their guilt.
They are responsible for murder in cold blood.
That they should have been an abortion is beyond dispute.
However, they were born, grew up to be worthless.
They are now guilty of murder.
They should be executed by the State.
Perhaps their bodies can be donated to science,so that at least some good could have come out of all this.
Wow, I know jail isn't the best place to improve your looks, but these girls aren't attractive _AT ALL._ Maybe you need to be on meth to appreciate them...
You people are assholes, making these girls out to be the victims. Hopefully they'll all be murdered in prison.
shutup mona, jill may be nice, 'tweaks' are always nice.... especially when they're ripping you or your neighbor off. oh yea, they'll give you the shirt off their backs...but where did they steal that shirt from? these girls let themselves get way out of control, play like a gangsta, die like one.
Elizabeth 139 you are one rotten dispicable bitch. Everyone wants to judge, but until you are in the actual position you don't know. I actually know all three girls personally. To be honest, I don't think that article revealed what truly happened and we may never know. They made bad decisions-very bad decisions, and that is something they will have to live for the rest of their lives. I know jill like I said and she is a good person, I don't think any of them but kim realized Eugene was gonna get shot. I do think they planned to rob him though. And to all those who point the finger remember you have four pointing back at you.
Skip all the downer talk about homicide and focus more on the Kim and Jillian tag team sex and threesomes. This article begs to tell the erotic escapades of these women and their drug-fueled orgies.
What is with these girls living like they're in New Jack City? Poppin caps? Shootin gats? Keepin names out yo mouth, bitch? Drinkin' Henny. Is it still 1994?
Oh, great, so more children of bad parents are breeding again . .. I'm sure that Kim's offspring will do much the same as she did. They will be out soon, will breed more future criminals, will do more heinous acts. These children are why we need mandatory abortion for women too stupid not to breed. End all welfare for the likes of these "girls" who were born so their mothers could go on welfare. We should pay poor women not to have children. My sympathy to the victim's family, these "girls" should be euthenized. They were given more chances than most people, who don't murder out of a whim.
I believe the correct usage would have been "I would never have knowingly borne witness to such a heinous crime." "Borne" is the past pluperfect tense of the irregular verb "bear," although I've also seen it referred to as the past participle.
Also, "[y]ou're ruining the craft for everyone that has an opinion," should be "you're ruining the craft for everyone who has an opinion." I'm just trying to help.
The wrong combination of people can commit horrible crimes together; this is evident throughout history. It doesn't matter why they did it, whether it was lesbian jealousy, simple theft, friend manipulation or the weight of a broken past, present and future. They should not get a break because of their gender. Yes, it's taboo that young women committed this crime together, but were they men, not only would this not be front-page stuff, but the death penalty also would have been brought up, at least for the shooter. Is Jillian a saint? Look into her mug shot eyes and decide for yourself. She's just as bad as the other one, irregardless of her "long chestnut hair, mocha-colored eyes, and bow-shaped lips." Bad is bad.
As someone who personally knows Jillian I can say that deep down in her heart of hearts, she really is a good person, she just ended up doing the weong things with the wrong people. I never met Kim but from what I read, she sounds like a horrible, evil person that manipulated and twisted Jills already impressionable head. Now don't get me wrong, I am in no way condoning what they did but if you knew Jill the way I did, you would probably be a little more sympathetic.
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For once I'm actually relatively satisfied with the sentencing. Jillian's lies were so obvious and self-serving that I almost wanted her to receive the same jailtime as the actual killer, if for no reason other than the fact that she shows no remose and could be a threat to others.
I usually don't comment on stories but I'll make an exception or SFweekly. You guys are stupid and sick. This is what is wrong with the media. Trying to sympathize with cold-blooded murderers because they are attractive women. Even going so far as to intimately describe their looks. The young man who was murdered was a hard working exceptional member of society and you glamorize these vermin.
I wonder if you would go as far if the genders were reversed. Probably but it would be a paragraph out the men and 6 pages about the women. Plus they got voluntary manslaughter with all that evidence. Gimme a break.
Stay Classy SFweekly
Hey. As a writer of any kind, I feel the urge to express to you that if you want to write an article of more than a few paragraphs, it should not be remarkably boring.
This article is remarkably boring. If you wanted to imply innocence or non-guilt in regards to the accused, then you wasted too much time setting up your "dramatic conclusion."
If you want to say they're guilty, then you're a really, really bad writer.
Stop writing. You're ruining the craft for everyone that has an opinion.
These girls are, without any doubt in my mind, members of the society we live in which any number of heinously guilty parties can blame their equally heinous crimes on drugs. I have partaken in all of the drugs referenced here. I have never committed a crime. These despicable women are looking for any reason to pass the blame. They are murderers and in my opinion should be silenced.
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