As Wild put it when deposed in the pending lawsuit against the Jesuits, with no apparent sense of irony, the accusation was "ambiguous, yes, but serious ... we didn't have fire, but we had smoke." Through his assistant at Marquette, Wild declined to comment for this story.

George could not be reached for comment. His mother, speaking by telephone from Alaska, declined to talk about McGuire. "This has been a very traumatic thing for our family," she said.


Two years later, the Jesuits began to grasp the scope of the problem McGuire posed. That's when Charles's family first turned to the order for help. The incident would lead to the most extensive paper trail of any of the allegations against McGuire until a criminal investigation into his conduct began 10 years later. It was also illustrative of how the Jesuits chose to manage their wayward priest.

Victims’ advocates demonstrate at 
USF in April after documents revealing the history of complaints against McGuire were released as part of an Illinois lawsuit.
Kimberly Sandie
Victims’ advocates demonstrate at USF in April after documents revealing the history of complaints against McGuire were released as part of an Illinois lawsuit.
Patrick Wall, a former Benedictine monk, now works as an investigator and lawyer for victims of clergy sex abuse.
Kimberly Sandie
Patrick Wall, a former Benedictine monk, now works as an investigator and lawyer for victims of clergy sex abuse.

In April 1993, Francis Daly, socius, or second-in-command, of the Chicago Province, received a call from California. Fessio, the San Francisco priest, told him that he had been approached by a lawyer who was a close friend of a devout Catholic man in Walnut Creek. The attorney reported that McGuire had had inappropriate contact with the man's 16-year-old son, Charles, while on a trip to Russia.

McGuire, according to Daly's memo on the conversation, was "accompanied by some young men, one of whom he was taking showers with and reading hard pornography together. They also masturbated, but McGuire may not have touched the young man." The memo noted, "Joe [Fessio] asked [the lawyer] to keep this quiet until he could represent this to McGuire's provincial."

Charles's father had consulted the attorney along with several other local Catholic men, including Fran Crotty, an administrator at the Kolbe Academy, a private Catholic school in Napa. In a subsequent phone conversation the lawyer, speaking on behalf of this group, told Daly more. According to Charles, McGuire had purchased "explicit pornography, worse than Playboy" and looked at it with the boy "so that [Charles] could learn more about his body." Daly's memo stated that "if no action were begun in a few weeks," Charles's family members "are prepared to go to civil authorities. ... However, they prefer to keep it quiet and allow McGuire to keep his reputation if he goes for help."

McGuire, when confronted by his Jesuit bosses in Chicago, denied or mitigated the allegations. In a manner that would become characteristic of his responses to abuse complaints, he tried to turn attention away from himself and attack his accusers. He called Charles's father "tyrannical" and "unbalanced" and asserted that the boy was "very depressed and deals with his depression through sex," according to Jesuit records.

McGuire acknowledged he was "tolerant" of Charles reading porn, but denied that he had purchased it. No showering together had taken place, he said, although he allowed the boy to wash his foot, which he said was difficult to reach. McGuire said they stayed in the same room, but claimed the door was left open. He protested that he was not violating his 1991 restrictions on traveling with minors because he and Charles were staying at religious residences in the company of other people.

In a May 1993 letter to Brad Schaeffer, head of the Chicago Province, Charles's father revealed further details. McGuire had bought "skimpy sexy briefs" for the boy. He had asked the boy to drive, though he did not yet have a license, and had introduced him to alcohol. Just the past month, Charles's father said, the priest had called from San Francisco demanding that Charles come to the city for 10 days to stay with him. When Charles's parents refused, McGuire flew into a rage, revealing what he said was information the boy had told him in confession. It is unclear from the records what McGuire shared, though Charles's father described it as a "temptation" for which McGuire prescribed urgent spiritual guidance. This alleged violation of the confessional seal was an extremely rare and serious offense for a priest, bringing with it potential excommunication.

In June, Charles's father, dissatisfied with the Jesuits' response, asked that the Chicago Province seek out other possible victims. This request was reiterated in another letter sent by the family's lawyer acquaintance in early July. "We will proceed on our own if we do not feel that there is a permanent resolution," the lawyer wrote, implying a threat of legal action.

In a July memo, Daly recorded another conversation with Charles's father; it was clear that the socius' patience was wearing thin. "Although these folks seem pleasant, they are quite controlling," Daly complained, describing them as "religious legalists." Beyond the interview with McGuire, there is no evidence that the Jesuits sought to independently verify Charles's allegations of sex abuse or identify other victims.

Despite this lassitude, McGuire was directed to get the "help" Charles's family had advocated. Shortly after the original complaint was delivered by Fessio, the Jesuits ordered McGuire to undergo a psychological evaluation and, later, a residential treatment program. Remarkably, McGuire was permitted to perform a retreat in Phoenix in the interim, with the proviso that he tell his superior that a complaint had been filed against him and that he should not be in the presence of minors unsupervised.

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Gerald Goldberg
Gerald Goldberg

FREUD & PSYCHOLOGY ARE BIRTHED FROM TALMUDIC JUDAISM A Fascination with Sex Perusing the Talmud, one is overwhelmed with the recurrent preoccupation with sex, especially by the most eminent rabbis. Dozens of illustrations could be presented to illustrate the delight of the Pharisees to discuss sex and quibble over its minutest details. The rabbis endorsing child sex undoubtedly practiced what they preached. Yet to this hour, their words are revered. Simeon ben Yohai is honored by Orthodox Jews as one of the very greatest sages and spiritual lights the world has ever known. A member of the earliest "Tannaim," rabbis most influential in creating the Talmud, he carries more authority to observant Jews than Moses. Today, the Talmud’s outspoken pedophiles and child-rape advocates would doubtlessly spend hard time in prison for child molestation. The Oedipus complex was the invention of Sigmund Freud! Freud originally discovered, in the treatments partially conducted under hypnosis, that all his patients, both male and female, had been abused children and recounted their histories in the language of symptoms. After reporting his discovery in psychiatric circles, he found himself completely shunned because none of his fellow psychiatrists was prepared to share the findings with him. Freud could not bear the isolation for long. A few months later, in 1897, he described his patients’ reports on sexual abuse as sheer fantasies attributable to their instinctual wishes. Freud’s father was a paedophile! In a letter to his friend Wilhelm Fliess, he wrote: “Unfortunately, my own father was one of these perverts and is responsible for the hysteria of my brother (all of whose symptoms are identifications) and those of several younger sisters. The frequency of this circumstance often makes me wonder.” Fliess’s son, Robert Fliess exposed his own father as being another paedophile, who had sexually abused him when he was a child.

Gerald Goldberg
Gerald Goldberg

THE FOUNTAIN OF PERVERSION No Rights for Child Victims The Pharisees were hardly ignorant of the trauma felt by molested children. To complicate redress, the Talmud says a rape victim must wait until she was of age before there would be any possibility of restitution. She must prove that she lived and would live as a devoted Jewess, and she must protest the loss of her virginity on the very hour she comes of age. “As soon as she was of age one hour and did not protest she cannot protest any more.” 10 The Talmud defends these strict measures as necessary to forestall the possibility of a Gentile child bride rebelling against Judaism and spending the damages awarded to her as a heathen - an unthinkable blasphemy! But the rights of the little girl were really of no great consequence, for, "When a grown-up man has intercourse with a little girl it is nothing, for when the girl is less than this (three years and a day) it is as if one put the finger into the eye." The footnote says that as “tears come to the eye again and again, so does virginity come back to the little girl under three years.” Kethuboth 11b. In most cases, the Talmud affirms the innocence of male and female victims of pedophilia. Defenders of the Talmud claim this proves the Talmud's amazing moral advancement and benevolence toward children; they say it contrasts favorably with "primitive" societies where the child would have been stoned along with the adult perpetrator. Actually, the rabbis, from self-protection, were intent on proving the innocence of both parties involved in pedophilia: the child, but more importantly, the pedophile. They stripped a little boy of his right to "throw guilt" on his assailant and demanded complicity in sex from a little girl. By thus providing no significant moral or legal recourse for the child, the Talmud clearly reveals whose side it is on: the raping rabbi. Pedophilia Widespread Child rape was practiced in the highest circles of Judaism. This is illustrated from Yebamoth. 60b: There was a certain town in the land of Israel the legitimacy of whose inhabitants was disputed, and Rabbi sent R. Romanos who conducted an inquiry and found in it the daughter of a proselyte who was under the age of three years and one day, and Rabbi declared her eligible to live with a priest. The footnote says that she was “married to a priest” and the rabbi simply permitted her to live with her husband, thus upholding “halakah” as well as the dictum of Simeon ben Yohai, “A proselyte who is under the age of three years and one day is permitted to marry a priest.” 12 These child brides were expected to submit willingly to sex. Yebamoth. 12b confirms that under eleven years and one day a little girl is not permitted to use a contraceptive but “must carry on her marital intercourse in the usual manner.” In Sanhedrin 76b a blessing is given to the man who marries off his children before they reach the age of puberty, with a contrasting curse on anyone who waits longer. In fact, failure to have married off one’s daughter by the time she is 12-1/2, the Talmud says, is as bad as one who “returns a lost article to a Cuthean” (Gentile) - a deed for which “the Lord will not spare him.” 13 This passage says: “… it is meritorious to marry off one’s children whilst minors.” The mind reels at the damage to the untold numbers of girls who were sexually abused within Judaism during the heyday of pedophilia. Such child abuse, definitely practiced in the second century, continued, at least in Babylon, for another 900 years. 10 Kethuboth 11a. 11 Kethuboth 11b. 12 Yebamoth 60b. 13 Sanhedrin 76b.

Gerald Goldberg
Gerald Goldberg

THE LEAVEN OF THE PHARISEES Sex with a “Minor” Permitted What exactly did these sages say? The Pharisees justified child rape by explaining that a boy of nine years was not a “man” Thus they exempted him from God’s Mosaic Law: “You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination” (Leviticus. 18:22) One passage in the Talmud gives permission for a woman who molested her young son to marry a high priest. It concludes, “All agree that the (sexual) connection of a boy aged nine years and a day is a real connection; whilst that of one less than eight years is not." Sanhedrin 69b 5 Because a boy under 9 is sexually immature, he can't "throw guilt" on the active offender, morally or legally. 6 "…the intercourse of a small boy is not regarded as a sexual act." 7 The Talmud also says, "A male aged nine years and a day who cohabits with his deceased brother's wife acquires her (as wife)."8 Clearly, the Talmud teaches that a woman is permitted to marry and have sex with a nine year old boy. 5 Sanhedrin 69b. 6 Sanhedrin 55a. 7 Footnote 1 to Kethuboth 11b. 8 Sanhedrin 55b. Sex at Three Years and One Day In contrast to Simeon ben Yohai's dictum that sex with a little girl is permitted under the age of three years, the general teaching of the Talmud is that the rabbi must wait until a day after her third birthday. She could be taken in marriage simply by the act of rape. R. Joseph said: Come and hear! A maiden aged three years and a day may be acquired in marriage by coition and if her deceased husband’s brother cohabits with her, she becomes his. (Sanhedrin 55b) A girl who is three years of age and one day may be betrothed by cohabitation. . . .(. Yebamoth 57b) A maiden aged three years and a day may be acquired in marriage by coition, and if her deceased husband’s brother cohabited with her she becomes his. (Sanhedrin. 69a, 69b, also discussed in Yebamoth. 60b) It was taught: R. Simeon b. Yohai stated: A proselyte who is under the age of three years and one day is permitted to marry a priest, for it is said, But all the women children that have not known man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves, and Phineas (who was priest, the footnote says) surely was with them. (Yebamoth. 60b) [The Talmud says such three year and a day old girls are] . . . fit for cohabitation. . . But all women children, that have not known man by lying with him, it must be concluded that Scripture speaks of one who is fit for cohabitation. (Footnote to Yebamoth. 60b) The example of Phineas, a priest, himself marrying an underage virgin of three years is considered by the Talmud as proof that such infants are "fit for cohabitation." The Talmud teaches that an adult woman’s molestation of a nine year old boy is "not a sexual act" and cannot "throw guilt" upon her because the little boy is not truly a "man.” 9 But they use opposite logic to sanction rape of little girls aged three years and one day: Such infants they count as “women," sexually mature and fully responsible to comply with the requirements of marriage. The Talmud footnotes 3 and 4 to Sanhedrin 55a clearly tell us when the rabbis considered a boy and girl sexually mature and thus ready for marriage. "At nine years a male attains sexual matureness… The sexual matureness of woman is reached at the age of three." 9 Sanhedrin 55a.

Gerald Goldberg
Gerald Goldberg

POPE JOHN PAUL II & POPE BENEDICT XVI SAY TALMUDIC JEWS ARE THEIR BROTHERS: The Talmud is Judaism's holiest book (actually a collection of books). Its authority takes precedence over the Old Testament in Judaism. Evidence of this may be found in the Talmud itself, Erubin 21b (Soncino edition): "My son, be more careful in the observance of the words of the Scribes than in the words of the Torah (Old Testament)." Jewish scholar Hyam Maccoby, in "Judaism on Trial," quotes Rabbi Yehiel ben Joseph: "Further, without the Talmud, we would not be able to understand passages in the Bible ... God has handed this authority to the sages and tradition is a necessity as well as scripture. The Sages also made enactments of their own ... anyone who does not study the Talmud cannot understand Scripture." Second century Rabbi Simeon ben Yohai, one of Judaism’s very greatest rabbis and a creator of Kabbalah, sanctioned pedophilia—permitting molestation of baby girls even younger than three! He proclaimed, “A proselyte who is under the age of three years and a day is permitted to marry a priest.” 1 Yebamoth 60b, Subsequent rabbis refer to ben Yohai’s endorsement of pedophilia as "halakah," or binding Jewish law. 2 Yebamoth 60b Has Rabbi ben Yohai, child rape advocate, been disowned by modern Jews? Hardly. Today, in ben Yohai’s hometown of Meron, Israel, tens of thousands of orthodox and ultra-orthodox Jews gather annually for days and nights of singing and dancing in his memory. References to pedophilia abound in the Talmud. They occupy considerable sections of Treatises Kethuboth and Yebamoth and are enthusiastically endorsed by the Talmud’s definitive legal work, Treatise Sanhedrin. The Pharisees Endorsed Child Sex The rabbis of the Talmud are notorious for their legal hairsplitting, and quibbling debates. But they share rare agreement about their right to molest three year old girls. In contrast to many hotly debated issues, hardly a hint of dissent rises against the prevailing opinion (expressed in many clear passages) that pedophilia is not only normal but scriptural as well! It’s as if the rabbis have found an exalted truth whose majesty silences debate. Because the Talmudic authorities who sanction pedophilia are so renowned, and because pedophilia as “halakah” is so explicitly emphasized, not even the translators of the Soncino edition of the Talmud (1936) dared insert a footnote suggesting the slightest criticism. They only comment: “Marriage, of course, was then at a far earlier age than now.” 3 In fact, footnote 5 to Sanhedrin 60b rejects the right of a Talmudic rabbi to disagree with ben Yohai's endorsement of pedophilia: "How could they [the rabbis], contrary to the opinion of R. Simeon ben Yohai, which has scriptural support, forbid the marriage of the young proselyte?" 4 1 Yebamoth 60b, p. 402. 2 Yebamoth 60b, p. 403. 3 Sanhedrin 76a. 4 In Yebamoth 60b, p. 404, Rabbi Zera disagrees that sex with girls under three years and one day should be endorsed as halakah.

Gerald Goldberg
Gerald Goldberg

Council of Elvira 306 AD 71. Those who sexually abuse boys may not commune even when death approaches. 1700 years of Tradition! They have been buggering children for 1700 years! THIS IS NOT THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST! THIS IS THE CHURCH OF SATAN!

Gerald Goldberg
Gerald Goldberg

Matthew 18:6 6 But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea.

Gerald Goldberg
Gerald Goldberg

THE ROMAN CATHOLIC PRIEST Council of Elvira 306 AD 71. Those who sexually abuse boys may not commune even when death approaches. 1700 years of Tradition! ANOTHER CHRIST "As an alter Christus, the priest is profoundly united to the Word of the Father who, in becoming incarnate took the form of a servant, he became a servant (Phil 2: 5-11). The priest is a servant of Christ, in the sense that his existence, configured to Christ ontologically, acquires an essentially relational character: he is in Christ, for Christ and with Christ, at the service of humankind. Because he belongs to Christ, the priest is radically at the service of all people: he is the minister of their salvation, their happiness and their authentic liberation, developing, in this gradual assumption of Christ's will, in prayer, in "being heart to heart" with him. Therefore this is the indispensable condition for every proclamation, which entails participation in the sacramental offering of the Eucharist and docile obedience to the Church." - Pope Benedict XVI 24 June 2009 QUESTION: What did the Roman Catholic priest say to the altar boy as he pushed his penis up the boy’s anus? ANSWER: “Body of Christ”!

TWJC
TWJC

To Daniel Perrine: Dick Baumann was the provincial of the Chicago Province right after Brad Schaeffer and just before Ed Schmidt. What too much of the bong?

Daniel Perrine
Daniel Perrine

Fessio pointed in particular to a 1998 "letter of good standing" that then-Chicago Provincial Dick Baumann wrote to the Bishop of Las Vegas, indicating that McGuire "had never been accused of improprieties with minors." Dick Baumann was never a Provincial of any province of the Society of Jesus (Jesuits). I guess he may have been the socius at some time or other.

Lililives
Lililives

Back in the olden days in a far away state that rhymes with Nexas, people used to handle these types of religious dramas in this way:

No charges were ever filed. The offenders just...disappeared.

This needs to be the answer now. There are far too many adults(fellow clergy, other parents, neighbors, teachers, administrators,police, counselors) aiding the offenders in these situations. The laws don't help with this:instant death, not counseling or prison, is the answer to this epidemic.

Dreamk10000
Dreamk10000

I am looking for the survivor of Monsignour Albert Berube, I too suffered at his hands and have filed a claim with the Fall River Archdiocese. I live in CT and my e-mail adddress is dreamk10000@yahoo.com. I was abused by Berube in 1961-1962 and1962-1963. I was in the first grade & second grade and I remember other children who were with me in the basement of the rectory when he was abusing us all. St. Anthonys in New Bedford, Mass. is where I attended. I lived in New Bedford at the time. I was so validated when I read your post. I am the only one who has come forward and as you know there are more victims of this pedophile.

Dreamk10000
Dreamk10000

I am looking for the person who said they were abused by Msr. Albert Berube @ St. Anthony's in New Bedford, Mass.I would like to talk with you. I attended first & second grade there in the 60's and so far have been the only one to come forward. I tried to reply to you post from 2 months ago.My email is...dreamk10000@yahoo.com. I posted him on the bishopaccountability.org site on SNAP(SURVIVORS NETWORK FOR THOSE ABUSED BY PRIESTS) I have a claim against the arcdiosese in Fall River. I witnessed the abuse of others children alongside myself in the basement of the rectory.I hope you are out there somewhere. I hope we can someday share our stories. I felt so validated by your post. It made me feel less alone in the world.I will speak up & loud until and when I feel avenged for what he did to me. I am sorry that we endured his abuse.@ the hands of this evil institution & predator. Most sincerly.....me

Dreamk10000
Dreamk10000

I WAS ALSO ABUSED BY BERUBE at St. Anthony's in the 60's in New Bedford, Mass! I witnessed other children in the basement alongside me being abused by him.I am so amazed that I have found your reply. Please let me know if I can contact you. My email is dreamk10000@yahoo.com..I live in CT now.I can hardly contain myself. I am sorry for the both of us.

Dreamk10000
Dreamk10000

As a victim of priest abuse by Monsignor Albert BerubeWhile attending St. Anthony's Elementary School in the 60's in New Bedford, Mass I know firsthand how men in power hide the sickest of their members which of course says how sick they are too. They are not subject to ever be anything but a pedophile. My predator priest had a dark side that was frightening.....understandable they cannot tolerate their own repulsive self Speak your truth.don't mince words! All of you evil f...s Will pay with your soul for the crimes you commit against children. Who gives a rats ass about you. If you turned your back on a child you suck. Speak up,speak loud, speak the truth....all children need our protection from pedophiles that infiltrate our society. If you prey on a child......you don't get q life!!

Dreamk10000
Dreamk10000

As a victim of priest abuse by Monsignor Albert BerubeWhile attending St. Anthony's Elementary School in the 60's in New Bedford, Mass I know firsthand how men in power hide the sickest of their members which of course says how sick they are too. They are not subject to ever be anything but a pedophile. My predator priest had a dark side that was frightening.....understandable they cannot tolerate their own repulsive self Speak your truth.don't mince words! All of you evil f...s Will pay with your soul for the crimes you commit against children. Who gives a rats ass about you. If you turned your back on a child you suck. Speak up,speak loud, speak the truth....all children need our protection from pedophiles that infiltrate our society. If you prey on a child......you don't get q life!!

KIm M. Roy
KIm M. Roy

I replied to the person who said they were abused at St. Anthony's...my email tag dreamk was posted above your comment & it is a mistake. I did not mean to do that. I am sorry and am trying to remove it. Please contact me when you read my reply that I was abused at St Anthony's too by the same priest. dreamk10000@yahoo.com

P.A.
P.A.

Jesuits serve the Vatican the most evil power on earth, read more here hence, Jesuits are evil as well.

Read Lawsuit versus John Paul II and Benedict XVI the pair of eyes that ruled the Holy See, the pair of hands that shepherded the Vatican

http://popecrimes.blogspot.com...

The Vatican is the MOST EVIL POWER on Earth. The Vatican’s worst crimes are the Vatican Swiss Banks that hoard despots’ ill-gotten wealth hence they perpetuate poor countries and poor peoples. UN UNITED NATIONS must END the VATICAN as a “NATION” because it is only 1 one building for males homosexual GAYS (population less than a USA High School). Women and children are forbidden in it. The Pope and Cardinals do not need “diplomatic immunity” to re-incarnate Jesus in the Eucharist + Mass = SORCERY

tallandwisecentre
tallandwisecentre

It was said by Alistair Crowley, (SATANIST) that raping young children, the younger the better, empowered Satanist with demonic power.

 

The Vatican MUST be a depot of Hell. 

jamesleboeuf
jamesleboeuf

RastazKoon, you are full of hate, as I am also full of hate, but it is important to direct your hate exactly where it belongs. When a grown adult sexually molests a child, nothing is being shared, and EVERYTHING is being stolen - from the child. In direct contrast to that, when 2 consenting adults, who happen to be queer, sexually engage each other, nothing is being stolen, and everything is being shared. This is like sesame street - two opposite things - NOT THE SAME. If you find yourself obsessively hating all "faggots", sometimes feeling that hate when you notice another man looking in your direction on a bus, or in a crowd, or wherever, then you are repressing memories of being raped by a man when you were a child. THAT IS A FACT. It takes NO COURAGE to hate "all the faggots". It takes HUGE courage to look inside your OWN self, and your OWN past, and find out what actually happened to YOU. Grow some balls, find your courage, and stop being an asshole.

RastazKoon
RastazKoon

FAGGOTS MARRY and PRANCE IN the STREETS----

WHAT IS WRONG WITH WHAT this PRIEST DID ????

HE IS A PERVERT JUST LIKE THE REST OF the FAGGOTS!!!!

ALLOW THE FAGGOTS TO BE IN CONGRESS WHY NOT POKING a 16 year old?????

jamesleboeuf
jamesleboeuf

thank you for your compassion, Seorsa, it means a lot to me. I just wrote you a long reply, but it did not send, and now it's lost in cyberspace. Maybe this one will go through. I mentioned that the reason folks refuse to believe this kind of abuse is real, is because thinking about it makes them feel disoriented and unsafe. Denial is a mild form of dissociation. In reality, ALL institutions that are very old and very powerful have evolved a duplistic structure in order to survive. They espouse "positive" ideas and do positive deeds in public, but then in secret they do whatever is necessary to maintain their power and wealth, and in the case of the Catholic church in particular, to satisfy the sadistic sexual addictions of so many of the clergy. I don't believe that all religion is an abomination, though. Spiritual ideas that become popular are eventually twisted and co-opted by the ruling classes, and molded to fit the status quo. The inevitable function of organised religion, then, is to ENABLE organized oppression. A symbiotic relationship evolves between the chuches and the governments (or nowadays, between the churches and the banks which run the governments). Heaven versus Hell; Rich versus Poor -- BI-POLAR. Think about it.

David Owen
David Owen

Talk about disorienting. I did enjoy this post james but I am floored by the implications.

jamesleboeuf
jamesleboeuf

Hi David, thanks for responding. Learning about all the secret criminal activity that has been going on for so many centuries can seem a lot like being in "the matrix" movie, I suppose, except it's not about computers, it's about money, power, and sex; the big three addictions of "dominant" males (notice the quotes). If you really want to be "floored", try to research who actually funded Hitler, and why. Adolf Hitler was the Vatican's solution to Carl Marx. Or, Adolf Hitler was the Masonic solution to Carl Marx. Or, Adolf Hitler was "capitalism's" solution to Carl Marx. Three statements equally accurate. At the top of the pyramid, they are all the same people. Why? Socialism was becoming fashionable among the German inteligensia, and the Germans, unlike Americans, revered their intillectuals. Russia had already fallen to the Bolshevecks (or however you spell it), and Engles had his sites set on Germany next. If the edcucators and celeberties became socialist, the people would follow, then the nation. If Germany became a Socialist state, France would have been next, then the rest of Europe, etc. The problem was, that Engles was not the only person who envisoined this sequence of events. So did the super-rich ruling families of Europe and America. So Hiltler was funded, called himself a Socialist, when in fact he was the opposite of a Socialist (therby demonizing Socialism), and the entire nation of Germany became an experiment in mass mind control. The oldest strategy in the books - to make the demons appear as victims, and the victims appear as demons - or any number of variations of that basic theme, were utilized to transform an entire nation into a fascist machine. I am reminded of a rumor which implies that being Socialist is equivilent to being anti-semetic. That is nonsense. I am sure there were plenty of progressive socialist-leaning Jews in Europe before Hitler slaughtered them all. I seem to be rambling on here. Maybe I should write something good in this post, to balance the other two. Hmmmm. The first thing I'd mention is that the "bad guys" are not the only game in town; there are also secret groups of healers, and other helpers of one sort or another, and of course, the majority of normal people, who, in the absence of relentless manipulation and constant financial pressure, would choose to do the right thing most of the time. I have no doubt that the vast majority of human beings are born "good", but our fears, prejudices, compulsions, and so on are easlily manipulated by those who stand outside of humanity, looking in. Another discovery which helps me is that the more evil a person is, the more cowardly he is also. That is universal, and it applies equally to individuals and groups of individuals. The immense evil of the ritual abuse of children is carried out behind layers upon layers of secrecy, but these secrets are slowly being exposed - as quckly as the people can handle. As they become exposed to the light of day, the cowards who do these acts run and hide as quickly as they possible can. I have a twelve hour work day tomorrow, so I should sign off. The more evil a man is, the more cowardly his is also.

tallandwisecentre
tallandwisecentre

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THE FINAL SOLUTION! WHAT WAS THE PROBLEM?

 

When Germany attacked Czarist Russia, it occupied Poland & allowed millions of lice infested Orthodox Jews into Germany, causing a problem for the Germans and assimilated Jews.

There was a Holocaust, but what kind of Jew was killed?

Rabbi Dr. Chaim Simons helps to show us something that lots of Jews like Abe Foxman wouldn't like us to see.

 

jamesleboeuf
jamesleboeuf

Hi davidowen, I've poored through so many hundreds of books, pamphlets, articles, and so on in my life, I have a hard time remembering any particular one. And, there is no one source that I know of that has consolidated all the available info regarding the truth behind the invasion of Naziism into Germany. It is public knowledge, however, that the Bush family, Rockerfellers, Ford family, and several other high Masons filtered large sums to the fledgling Nazi party. Generally speaking, "the banks" were behind both world wars, and they made millions selling arms to both sides. Also, much of my opinion comes from the very sophisticated "satanic" rituals which I personally witnessed and endured for 8 years at St. Schoolastica parish in Detroit Michigan. These rituals included many elements which I later learned were of Masonic origin, many elements which were very similar to the kinds of horrors the Nazis produced, including very specific demonization of Jews. I can't for the life of me remember where I read about Engles helping Socialism to become "fashionable" among the Europian acedemia, but it certainly makes sense, as a clever stategy, if you think about it. That strategy was working, so Hitler and the Nazis became the human bomb which completely exploded Europe into war and mayhem, totally destroying any chance for a rational debate about capitalism vs. socialism. Did you know the allies carpet bombed Germany for two years after the surrender?

On a happier note,, here is one of my favorite quotes, from myself:

"That which is most Human, is most Sacred; that which is most Sacred, is most Human".

I believe that expresses the original Christian religion, before it was re-militarized by the Romans. And of course, that original Christian religion, was a desert-culture variation of the original forest-culture Shamanic religions: "That which is most Natural, is most Sacred; that which is most Sacred, is most Natural". If we were to combine the two, as a means to save at least some of Nature, we would have the "formula": "That which is most Human and Natural, is most Divine and Sacred; that which is most Divine and Sacred, is most Human and Natural". That is my religion. If you like it, send me all your money, and I'll let you touch the hem of my robe. Hey, some Guru's are more equal than others! Hope yer laughin.

Davidowen74
Davidowen74

Thank you for the thoughtful post James. If you have a particularly informative book or reference you would like to share about the Vatican/Masonic support of HItler I would like to know about it. Hope to learn more from you in the future, and then use that power against people for my own nefarious scheme....ha ha. JK. signing off myself to practice. stay in touch if you want with facebook or whatever. I am in SanDiego, a city filled to brim with right wing wacko's, and some heavy intellectuals, though I have not found them. In SF it seemed the overall IQ was significantly higher. I miss the city.

Seorsa
Seorsa

@beatriz- I believe that the church does profit from the abuse and co-dependent relationships this abuse creates. The Roman Catholic Church is the second largest landowner in the world, second only to McDonalds. Their world wide conspiracy of rape and the coverup of rape, not to mention abuse and protitution is probably scarier than any organized crime sydnicate. In the US there is much less abuse in public schools than in churches. If you are referring to the abuse of the schools as a farm league for the juvenile/youth/adult slave labor system, then yes, it is a far more serious problem than the catholic church, though they have their role (as do most traditional religions) in the prison industrial complex.

Beatriz
Beatriz

Seorsa, you seem seriously confused. If you are thinking about who has had the most land STOLEN from them, it may actually be the Catholic Church. Check those facts out with an unbiased source. Feel free, however, to continue to fear and hate an organization that is strictly voluntary, has no legislative power whatsoever, no military or arsenal, no power to tax, no power to incarcerate, no earthly power whatsoever, unless you are afraid of being denied access to the sacraments...Wow, yeah, scary..

Sexual abuse is much more prevalent in public schools according to the US Dept of Education, but the victims are unable to sue the state, so since no lawsuits are filed, there is nothing for lazy journalists to report on. They can continue their ritual worship of public school teachers while sweeping the victims under the rug.http://www2.ed.gov/rschstat/re...

Good luck with your misplaced fears and hatred.

Seorsa
Seorsa

I wish someone would step up to the plate and file RICO charges against the bishops and orders like the Jesuits and Christian Brothers who were criminal co-conspiritors in the rape and abuse of so many people. There is little doubt that the Church intends to maintain its millenia long primary function of rape abuse.

tallandwisecentre
tallandwisecentre

Remember all those who spoke out against this RC CULT, down through the centuries, were burnt ALIVE!

 

And these RC DEMONICS called themselves VICARS OF CHRIST!

 

VICARS OF SATAN!

 

 

Beatriz
Beatriz

SeorsaFor RICO charges to apply, there would have to be some profit or financial consideration involved. Of course, many children ARE being sexually exploited for profit and being forced into prostitution all over the world today, but reporting on for-profit criminals would involve some serious investigative WORK and is a DANGEROUS activity. Much easier for lazy journalists to report on a cost efficient lawsuit targeting a relatively transparent organization composed of bureaucratic wimps who won't fight back that also has access to large amounts of donated funds. Nevermind the FACT that the Catholic Church has fewer cases, percentage-wise, of predatory behaviour than any organization that deals with children. The overwhelmingly vast majority of childhood sexual abuse victims have no one to sue and the rare victim of organized crime that escapes alive spends the remainder of their life in hiding. Who can Jaycee Dugard sue? Elizabeth Smart? Bueller?

Annie
Annie

Beatriz. . .do you really believe this author must on each and every situation in which children are harmed by adult predators to qualify as having a legitimate point? He has a right to have a focus on clergy abuse and let YOU for example, take up the cause of child abuse in the public schools. There is enough abuse to go around. I for one, am THANKFUL Mr. Jamison and others like him keep reporting on cases of clergy abuse: Yes, even after these pedophile predators are "already in prison." The Church spent so much energy, time, money, and deception hiding these truths from us that the more exposure these criminals receive the better our entire community is. We need to be aware of how this trusted institution facilitated the ease at which these predators were allowed to prey! Your suggestion that "parents stood by and facilitated their own children's abuse" is sadly misplaced. Trust in the Church is not facilitation of abuse. Knowing of reported cases of abuse and actively covering them up, denying harm, or failing to report these crimes or blaming the innocent families and children is the real facilitation of abuse you talk about and repeatedly engaged in by the Church. Thank God for this story, many more like it and this REAL journalist who doggedly reports on issues of clergy sexual abuse so long and so desperately hidden from us.

tallandwisecentre
tallandwisecentre

THEY DID IT FROM THEIR BEGINNING, 1700 YEARS!

 

THEY HAVE BEEN RAPING CHILDREN FOR 1700 YEARS!

 

YOU COULDN'T OPEN YOUR MOUTH OR THEY WOULD DESTROY YOU!

 

THESE BASTARDS ARE DEMONIC!

Beatriz
Beatriz

AnnieI am not a journalist in a widely read newspaper, so I can rant all day about child abuse in public schools but no one will hear me. Further, regarding the parents of these children, would YOU allow your 16 year old son to work as a "personal assistant" to and travel with ANY adult man? I wouldn't, no way, not even close. This is what we all need to take away from these stories. PARENTS are responsible for protecting their children. They should trust NO ONE alone with their children. Predators are always circling looking for EASY prey. The main requirement is STUPID, TRUSTING parents. These predators go where the children are and look for children with STUPID or DEFECTIVE parents. They are happy to become teachers, coaches, priests, foster parents, social workers etc. to gain credibility and access to your children. The focus on priests and bureaucratic hierarchies does not address the core issue: Parents need to be aware of all attempts to gain access to their children and report all suspicious behavior. There is absolutely no reason to leave your children alone with any adult whatsoever. Just don't do it. Mandatory reporters are obliged to report suspected abuse by PARENTS not by co-workers. PARENTS must report suspected abuse of their children to the appropriate authorities, not "discuss" the issue with the co-workers and/or employers of the predator! Who will have the courage to say the truth!

Beatriz
Beatriz

To the author of this column, Mr. Peter Jamison: I was just wondering, since you seem to care soooo much for the children victimized by adult predators, when will you be reporting on the ongoing sexual abuse scandals in the public schools and all the cover-ups and pay-offs going on with taxpayer funds? In my humble opinion, if you do not report on this ongoing scandal, you become one of the enablers yourself just EXACTLY like those whose silence in the past you profess to abhor. You have a voice and can shed some light on a scandal that is happening right now under your very nose, but you would prefer to distract the people with old news that only serves to focus public anger on your personal pet peeve, the Catholic Church and a predator who is already in prison. There are children being victimized today, but you choose to report on a self serving lawsuit filed by adults who were victimized as children as their parents stood by and facilitated their own children's abuse. When will you become a real journalist?

Mark
Mark

I agree with Annie. I have a fiend--a nun who has dedicated her whole life to the cause of juvenile justice. Whenever the priest abuse issue is raised, she goes ballistic and says, "Why don't they spend time investigating how the criminal justicesystem abuses young people?" I try to explain to here that it's apples and oranges--that her approach tends to take the heat off the priest abusers and the bishops who cover them up--to say, "look over here and not there." It also plays into the handsof groups like the Catholic League who accuse the victims and their advocates ofoverstating their cases, that the victims themselves are often to blame. That's nonsense.

I also believe that the priest abuse scandal, despite what the bishops say, is far from over and that new scandals will arise, not only in the U.S. but throughoutthe world. There is not too much reporting on this, but too little. And please, stop the canonization of Pope John Paul II. Both he and Pope Benedict have covered up thse crimes for the past 20 years. Catholics need to get a clue what's going on. They need to wake up!

StevenStreets
StevenStreets

As an adult victim of homosexual rape by a priest, I take issue with your apologetic defense of my rapists religion. It IS my religion. The Catholic Religion belongs to US victims of that Religion. The Cross of Jesus tells us so. I've watched from the inside as a Cathedral janitor and Cantor and eyewitnessed all the deceitful maneuverings of the Bishops and pervert priests at the Cathedral where I've been for 33 years. I saw a "good" Priest report abuse by a "bad" priest going on in the rectory apartment right next to that Bishops own room. The Bishops response was to send the "good" priest away to another parish along with the other witness being wrongfully dismissed with two weeks severance pay. The "bad" Priest was made a monsignor and assumed to be the next in line for Bishop of Columbus until he was publicly outed by one of his victims. Then Good God delivered him by his own hand masturbating in public in a notorious public park. Read the story about Fr Fete in Columbus Monthly magazine. I consider that Late Bishop a complicit enabler and as FR Fete followed him next in line. I make an intuitive guess the Bishop was as much an abuser as the priest he protected and enabled. I became a casualty because of that abuse later that year at Army chaplain asst school. 33 years ago. I was a straight arrow young soldier and could not cope with the shame of what happened to me. I was comforted when God vetoed the 2nd Pope that year after 33 days "No More business as usual" is what God said to me in that Historic event.Parochial Pride considers all this to be an attack on the ICON of the Priesthood and Religion. While it is in fact a historical reiteration of the plot to the Gospel Story. The Cross bears witness to God lifting up the victims of Religion and his vindication of their suffering. The Cross is Gods utter damnation of Religious abuse, theocracy, and corporate self importance of Religious authority and their self important culture, doctrine and tradition. Far from being an attack on the Catholic faith, the sex abuse victims bear witness to the True Catholic Faith of Jesus own victimization with US.Now pay up to the victims whoever has need.

I require the Popes apology to the President for sex abuse of Military Orphans like myself. If you hate my Commander In Chief, go swim with Bin Ladins corpse.I require reparations, restitution, and DOUBLE damages for a lost 30 Carreer as an Army Tuba Player (Signal Corp of the Roman Legions please read Apocalypse 8:6 Now because the Vulgate Catholic Bible tells me so). I never filed a self serving lawsuit. In the service of Gods Kingdom I demand the church give me my just and due before Christ return like a thief in the night to catch Bishops, Priests and Proud Catholic laity with their pants down and a multitude of victims denied Justice crying to God at the church door.Semper Fi

tallandwisecentre
tallandwisecentre

In John ch 4 Jesus told the Samaritan woman that God was finished with RELIGION.

 

He told her that God was SPIRIT and those who worshiped Him in future, were to worship in spirit & in truth.

 

Jesus also told us in the same Gospel that He was the WAY, the TRUTH & the LIFE.

 

He also told us in the same Gospel that, the Holy Spirit would be the VICAR OF CHRIST on earth, when He returned to the Father & that He would tell us all things.

 

WHAT ARE YOU WAITING FOR?

 

When the Americans & Russians invaded the Concentration Camps, they released the victims that were still alive.

 

THE ROMAN CULT WAS A CONCENTRATION CAMP TO ITS VICTIMS.

 

FOR CHRIST'S SAKE, LEAVE THIS DEMONIC CULT!

 

You can worship God ANYWHERE; You can pray in your ROOM; you can offer up SPIRITUAL SACRIFICES TO GOD!

 

Read the First Epistle of Peter! Read the First Epistle to the Corinthians!

Read John's Gospel.

 

Come to the WATER OF LIFE!

Seorsa
Seorsa

Unfortunately the church has long functioned, and arguably has as its primary purpose, as an organization promoting rape and abuse. This has gone on consistently for over 1800 years (there is little evidence that the church existed as an organization before Constantine's conversion). The "True Catholic Faith" is founded on rape, abuse, murder, and theft. There may be a handful of priest's who are believers and good, but sadly they are being deceived just like the believers.

Beatriz
Beatriz

Tuba, your suffering can only be consoled by God's Love and your abusers and their enablers will suffer for eternity while you rest peacefully in the bosom of Abraham. In the final judgement, I suspect that you will actually be praying for God to have mercy on their souls when you understand the miserable punishments they will endure for eternity.

Carolyn Jean
Carolyn Jean

This very sick individual should give every Catholic pause. How could such a vile creaturebe in a position to treat a young trusting boy, probably already curious about sex, in sucha reprensible manner? It should be clear that this organization never has been the Churchthat Jesus Christ founded, because He said:" I will build My Church and the Gates of Hell shall not prevail against it {Matthew 16:18}."

Maureen
Maureen

Pacheco, a former altar boy who attended Catholic schools and described himself as deeply disturbed by priest abuse scandals in the U.S. said, "Quite frankly, that wasn't satisfactory to me. It was bad enough that priests were molesting children, but 100 times worse that the Catholic Church was protecting them."

We're in the midst of this mess here in Philadelphia and this quote describes one of my feelings about Cardinal Bevilaqua and Cardinal Rigali.

Patrick O'Malley
Patrick O'Malley

Why aren't they being thrown in jail? They should use the RICO act, the one they use against the mafia.

The Catholic church is an organized crime unit - where the crime is child rape, and they shoudl be prosecuted as such.

Seorsa
Seorsa

Right on patrick- it has done this for thousands of years. It also steals assets through deception, has condone slavery opposes basic rights for homosexuals, all in an effort to maintain its access to vulnerable men women and children.

JustanotherLAmom
JustanotherLAmom

Uhh, not to defend child molesters or their enablers, but isn't it actually the responsibility of parents to know where their children are, what they are doing with whom and to report any and all inappropriate behaviour to the police? My kids don't ever go on "overnites", and if my child was touched by a teacher, I would contact the police directly not the principal. Just sayin' it is amazing how predators can spot the kids with the lamest parents. Will the victims sue their parents for negligence? Probably not much money in that.... Btw, to all the Catholic bashers, this story reads just like the details of the more numerous public school predators. Predators go where the victims are. This behaviour has nothing to do with Catholicism.

Enochcarpenter
Enochcarpenter

Catholicism is an abomination, and it's destruction will happen when Christ returns to reign as King over the earth. As Revelation says, He will rule the nations with a "rod of iron."

Good news people. Rome will fall.

@enochcarpenter

Seorsa
Seorsa

All religion is an abomination, Christianity is the worst, and Catholics just seem worse because their ubiquitous and better organized.

 
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