Crip-less: S.F.'s Dislike of Franchises Extends to Street Gangs

It's a strange fact, but there is no significant Crips presence in the Bay Area. The Crips, after all, are one of the most widespread gangs in America, C-Walking through neighborhoods in major cities and small towns from San Diego to the Bronx.

The story of how this happened is filled with apocrypha and speculation. There is no official record, just gang lore passed down from O.G.s to young bucks. While some former local gang members have their own analyses, they all tell variations on the same narrative.

It all started in South Central Los Angeles in the late 1970s. Born from the ashes of the disintegrating Black Panthers, the Crips were forged by poverty, anger, ambition, and a desire to protect the community from police brutality. The gang spread quickly, as visiting friends carried the culture back to their own cities and original members relocated to initiate branches elsewhere.

The Crips made a move to San Francisco in the early '80s, a small group of them setting up shop in Bayview-Hunters Point. The recruitment pitch was simple: We're here to take over; join our growing drug empire and make some money. It had worked in Bakersfield, Fresno, and Sacramento. But San Francisco wasn't having it.

"They were all about reppin' their blue and showing off these dances — we thought all that was silly," says Gyno Frazier, a former Richmond gang member with ties to Bayview-Hunters Point, who heard the tale from older friends. They assumed people would just catch on and join. But that didn't happen.

To the young hustlers the Crips were trying to recruit, the gang's traditions seemed an unnecessary distraction from their main goal: profit. Worse, the Crips were trying to become new middlemen between dealer and supply.

"San Francisco, see, we were all about making money," says Rudy Corpuz, a former SOMA gang member who now runs the youth group United Playaz. "And the Crips guys were trying to get a cut of that."

With their modest contingent, the Crips displaced the locals at a Bayview housing project drug market. But the hustlers who got kicked off their land came back strong.

"They underestimated how fierce some of those San Francisco cats could be," says Corpuz.

Some say that neighboring San Francisco sets joined forces with the displaced group. Some say the displaced group fought on its own. Either way, there was a shootout at the housing project and the Crips were driven out. They haven't returned since. And the Bloods haven't even tried.

In prison yards and mess halls, aging Southern California Crips still reminisce about the gang's failed attempt to take San Francisco, notes Frazier, who spent four years in federal prison for a drug charge. Some of those Crips respect Bay Area inmates a little more for it. Some resent it.

"That's what makes the Bay Area so unique," Frazier says, "We're the one place in California that doesn't have Crips and Bloods."

 
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BayLife101
BayLife101

San Francisco's Hoods were GangBanging in the 80s - Now, but it was and Always been about TURF & THAT COLOR GREEN. NOT BLUE or RED. AND THE BAY AREA IS THE ONLY PLACE THAT DIDNT ADOPT THAT LA GANG CULTURE AND LETS NOT FORGET, THE CRIPS GOT THERE START FROM THE IDEOLOGY OF THE "BLACK PANTHERS" WHO WERE BASED OUT OF OAKLAND CA. SO WHO COPIED WHO? Ctfu

Madeandcrowned
Madeandcrowned

Crips and Bloods are historically Black gangs. If there are C's and B's in the bay they are not black, they are asian or poly. I am a Sco native, my family goes back to 1945 in the city, and we started out of BVHP. BLACKS DO NOT CRIP AND BLOOD IN THE BAY...AND THIS IS WHAT THE ARTICLE IS ALLUDING TO.

Madeandcrowned
Madeandcrowned

Histrorically the Crips and Bloods are black gangs any Crip gang you find in the Bay is either Asian or Poly. Blacks in the bay area (which this article is alluding to) do not, I REPEAT DO NOT CRIP OR BLOOD. This is coming from a brother whose family has been in the city since 1945, starting from the BVHP area. The only affiliation would be prison alliances. So when it is said that there are no Crips and Bloods in the bay... It means BLACK ones.

blue_gold64
blue_gold64

@serafin1 I'm a clown? Your a moron don't come on here and get butthurt because thats the truth and get on with the only blue in sf are surenos i just posted two factual articles about san francisco crip gangs and all the many different frisco crips gangs from the 1980's and 1990's until now and your mad trying to come in here angry and say they don't exist lol theres crips all over sf nobody cares but yourself about weak ass norte and nortenos couldn't handle all the bay area crip and sureno gangs killing them i am born and raised in san francisco ca, and crips and surenos use to dominate all sf in 80s/90s norte was target practice hella weak u must be from daly city or some nerd city surenos run the bay area only city were its half and half is san jose, sf has more sureno gangs ur retarded just like there are crip gangs in sf they have been here since the 80s u can deny them all u like but u can't call the sf news liars and a person who grew up in sf's real gangbangin 80s/90s era norte didn't exist nowhere in sf until mid late 90s crips and surenos were in sf early 80s do the math dumbass.

blue_gold64
blue_gold64

http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/tag/cambodian-crips/

Here is news on sf crips downtown taking over a old apartment building in the poor dirty tenderloin district,extorting the residents,selling crack and heroin and lots of drive-bys and this was barely a couple of months ago crips have never left san francisco just like surenos they have been in sf and the entire bay area since the 80s.

blue_gold64
blue_gold64

Here is a List of original bay area crip gangs outta hundreds of Crip gangs running around the bay area during the 1980s and 1990s every city Crip was the dominate gang just like now it has turned to Sureno being the dominate gang check it out:

http://www.angelfire.com/mac/murda1nc/cripz.html

blue_gold64
blue_gold64

Albert Samaha is a dumbass there are Crip gangs in the bay area although they are no where as huge as Sureno gangs in the bay area Crips never got ran out of San francisco,in the 1980s they didn't try to take over frisco they were popping up EVERYWHERE in sf it wasn't only 1 crip gang in hunters point that got in a fued with another crew that was a isolated incident at the time between them it had nothing to do with them bein crips because everybody was bangin crip in the entire bay area in the 1980s-late 1990s SF was crip land but times have changed most of those crip gangs dissappeared due to getting shut down by police for killing nortenos who were the only thing close to bloods in san francisco crips didnt get chased out they were the most powerful color gang in the entire bay area during the 1980s and 1990s i am in my 40s now but i remember how all the citys had crip gangs poppin up really killin people in red and each other i remember crip gangs on the news from richmond,east oakland,all of san francisco u couldnt even wear a 49ers jersey back then in sf! now most of those old crips gangs have killed each other or like i said were constantly gettin raided by police then eventually now san francisco has turned to Sureno/Norteno..Crips never got chased out more like shut down by police over time due to their 1990s bloody exploits.

sivory71
sivory71

Also the last point I will make, most gangs will target smaller markets, big gangs are not dumb they trying to make a profit,just like biker gangs,some will try too take over but it will lead to war,and no one will make money,places like chicago,houston,eastcoast like philly boston,miami neworleans,atlanta all have their homegrown gangs,which in some cases are worsen than la gangs,latin kings,the wards down

south,gds vicelords,hatians,cubans clicks,irish and italian crews in d east have their own idenity,it would be foolish to let outtatowners taking over your area where you making your money,also thes areas been had lucrative drug market like the bayarea just look at oakland history.

paca39100
paca39100

Man that article is not acrid . SF is known for BN a blood city. It's like any other city n the n the united state. So don't let those wanna be OG's tell different . And a SF CRIP was justed featured on America's most wanted tonight OCT/05/2012. So just for FYI on yur SF gang info there are crips and bloods in San Francisco . Greedy G

Baydestrian
Baydestrian

Excuse me djevoke but Bloods and Nortenos have nothing to do with each other. Bloods are an african american gang from Los Angeles. Nortenos are a Hispanic gang that claim Northern California. Sure they both use a red bandana but that is superficial and means nothing. In fact Nortenos had an alliance with the Bloods main enemy the Crips in the 1990s. Its was called the C-14 alliance. Do a simple google search and you will see that I am correct on this matter.  

 

FlippyPimpstein, you must understand that in San Francisco and in the greater Bay Area we only like OUR LOCAL franchises and enterprises. That is too say we like Safeway because its a company our local company with headquarters in the Bay Area but we dont like Wal MArt because they are non local and from another state, Arkansas. In the very same manner us San Franciscans and Bay Areans dont like the crips, bloods and Surenos(inlcluding MS13) because they are all SO Cal gangs from LA. On the other hand we glorify the Nortenos and the Hells Angels because thoses are our Bad Boys. The MIssion District is damn near the center of world wide Nortenoism and the Hells Angels have the highest concentration of Angels in the Bay Area then anywhere eles in the world. 

This also adds to the reason SF and the Bay Area have managed to keep LA gangs at bay. Because we have our own gangs in the Bay. 

Nortenos=Bay Area Gang

Hells Angels=Bay Area Gang

Kumi415=Bay Area Ganga

 

Crips/Bloods=LA Gang

Surenos/MS13=LA Gang

Mongols MC=LA gang

 

So what you have is the SF Bay Area  gangs(Nor Cal) vs LA area gangs(SO Cal) and this California civil war is being played out in every state across America and even foriegn countries because Nortenos, Surenos,Crips Bloods and Hells Angels are in almost every state in the counrty. 

AlCL
AlCL

This is so comforting. But I'm concerned that MS-13, Norteños and Sureños will conspire to price fix their drugs and other services and we'll all be poorer-in-pocket.  Whatever happened to prosecution of monopolies?

djevoke
djevoke

You should have done your research. There has been a heavy dose of Nortenos (who associate with the Bloods, FYI) for quite a while. So, yeah, the Bloods have tried and succeeded. The reason the Crips didn't make it up here is because it is Norteno/Blood territory.

FlippyPimpstein
FlippyPimpstein

Um, yeah well there are the Norteños and Sureños, both major franchises, so this article seems kind of inaccurate. We only want certain gangs, kind of like we have Safeway, Subway, and Radio Shack but we dont have Wal Mart (yet...)

serafin1
serafin1

Your a straight clown, and clearly you aint from the city.  The city is about turf, not red or blue.  The only red or blue in the city is surenos.  Maybe a handful of crips visited sf but they never had no sets.  And cambodian lame ass wanna be crips in the dirty loin dont count.

Sf was crip land? bro, your a fuckin jerkoff...

serafin1
serafin1

your another club.  aint no fucking  blood or crip sets in san francisco.  IM FROM SF, NAME ONE FUCKIN BLOOD SET, ONE FUCKIN CRIP SET....man please

kgb12
kgb12

 @paca39100 SF is not a "blood city" and there are no blood or crip sets in SF, aside from a few small and short-lived ones back in the 90s and 80s.  You sure you're not thinking of nortenos and surenos?  And i looked at  America's most wanted website, and there was nothing about San Francisco or crips on the 10/05/2012 episode, so I don't know what you're talking about with that.

rapsarentforeveryone
rapsarentforeveryone

 @Baydestrian wtf - bay area gangs vs. LA gangs in other states and countries? you're making up a war that doesn't exist.  LA gangs barely even know gangs up north exist. SMH stop trying to include the bay area in the history of L.A. gang culture (and gang culture in general).  

 

and Hells Angels a bay area gang? Hells Angels started from So Cal, Fontana.  

 

the bay area gangs only exists as a response to L.A. gang invasion and domination - they wouldn't even exist if L.A. gangs weren't around to protect themselves from.  Bay area piggy backs on everything L.A. does.   When it's L.A. shit poppin off the bay area calls it "Westside" when it's bay area shit poppin off  it's "Bay area nigga  .yeee. fuck L.A."

 

SMH

serafin1
serafin1

LET ME PUT IT STRAIGHT.  ANYONE ON HERE THAT THINKS BLOODS AND CRIPS EVER HAD SETS IN SAN FRANCISCO YOU ARE OUTTA YOUR FUCKIN MIND.  THIS CITY IS ABOUT TURF, NOT COLORS, ONLY NORTENOS AND BORDER BROTHER WANNA BE SURENOS CLAIM COLORS.

BayLife101
BayLife101

La COPIED CHICAGO GANG CULTURE N THE CRIPS COPIED OAKLAND'S BLACK PANTHERS THEN THE BLOODS COPIED THE CRIPS SO... CTFU

 
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