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Friday, May 3, 2013

Warriors: What the Nuggets Fans Are Saying Today

Posted By on Fri, May 3, 2013 at 2:37 PM

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We've been blessed here in the Bay. The Sports Gods have granted us a cornucopia of sports ecstasy. There've been dreamlike successes--from the Giants' championship to the 49ers Super Bowl run. But more than that, there've been epic performances: Matt Cain's perfect game; Pablo Sandoval's three home runs in Game One of the World Series; Colin Kaepernick's explosion against the Packers in the playoffs.

And now we have the Warriors and Steph Curry's legendary third quarters--stretches of shooting that will forever be etched into NBA playoff lore.

It's important we don't take these blessings for granted. Not long ago the Bay was on the other side of the Great Scoreboard in the Sky, stricken with a general malaise that infected pretty much every non-Hockey pro sports team for the better part of a decade. The good times are rolling, the Bay Area Sports Renaissance in full-bore.

But to really savor this stretch of joy, let's take a look at what it feels like to be on the other side. Like Scrooge peeking in Tiny Tim's window. Here's a compilation of what Denver Nuggets fans are saying on The Day After, per comments left on the Denver Stiffs and Round Ball Mining Company blogs:

Pure gloom

I'm a very disappointed and embarrassed Nuggets fan right now, probably the worst feeling I've had as a Nuggets fan in a long time. I feel like I've been duped one too many times by these guys. SMH and FML.
This hurts...this game, this series, this season. Don't know where you go from here. Two years in a row, same team, same result...not sure what other growth you can expect by staying the course.

They fought hard, but never should have been in the position to have to win a closeout game on the road. Give them credit for not giving up, but just too many holes, too many missed shots, not enough consistency.

10 years of being a Nuggets fan from Cincinnati, I'm done unfortunately. I'm not fanning any team anymore unless the Supersonics come back somehow. It sucks always talking so highly of them every year and then getting merked embarrassingly and telling my friends next year. Shit, I reminsce more on our Melo/AI/KMart/Nene/Birdman/(Ty) days than anything.
65 games? Seriously? What a joke. This 57-win team just got punished-and badly-by a six seed that lost its second best player in game one. Yes, Karl was terrible early in this series and Miller stunk too. But the rest of this team is nothing special. Chandler was terrible. KK. Brewer. The so-called "Manimal." The team can't shoot threes or FTs and they can't defend. Once the garbage buckets were taken away, Denver was hopeless. Denver will be lucky to win 55 next year. We can blame Karl and Miller, but really this series was no closer than the Lakers one last year.
Losing to Stephanie Curry hurts. Regular season only matters for setting you up for a good post season; the Nuggets had every reason to at least get out of the first round. No excuses.
im supposed to be studying for a test tomorrow morning, but all i can do is think about what just happened. i hope the next time we play GS. we absolutely demolish them.
Too many ifs, let's just not have a shitty coach and some shitty players next year. :(
On George Karl

FIRE KARL! FIRE KARL! FIRE KARL
As I no longer will watch the Nuggets as long as GK is coach, I gladly cancelled my NBA leaguepass subscription and I will not attend the 3 or 4 home games I manage to get in when I am in town.

For the sanity of other fans who are on the fence after yet another GK debacle - I recommend doing the same and avoiding more time wasting.

I will happily rejoin the bandwagon if GK is gone and management takes a different approach (which isn't very difficult).

Use your time wisely - from now on I will.

Okay. Miller wins game one. Karl decides to over play him the rest of the series despite how bad he was playing. GS goes small. Works for them. Karl decides to match up with it. Which is something you don't do. You don't change your style of play to match someone elses, which Karl did the second he was given the excuse to.

Hateration

Curry can't defend. Can shoot. Needs the refs to protect him on both ends of the court. Bogut got away with murder. Every team is weak in one area. We aren't. We are stacked. Lots of depth. Karl is the one that has to play who has it going that night the most minutes. He didn't do that. Never does it. Plays his favorites. Seriously, definition of insanity here. How long do you give Karl a shot before you go, okay need someone new? Golden State didn't have a better team. Had a horrible defense. Had a very predictable offense. Went small and Karl panicked. Always does. Always will.
Curry was about to complete the choke job of a lifetime, and they refuse to paint him in that light. I was amazed at how bad curry and their whole team choked.
Did Bogut EVER leave the paint on defense? Could have been a defensive 3 seconds every possession.

And WHY OH WHY do the refs love Draymond Green so much? NEVER seen a middle of the road rookie get so much love. If that charge is called, we win. Warriors were choking.

No excuses. Yes the refs gave Golden State the game tonight. But the series as a whole? Well, Warriors did mug us the whole series and Karl let it happen. Should have picked up a tech. Should have just made a passing remark to the media. Not the pathetic and transparent HJ Jackson gave to get calls tonight, but to just say, if this is how the series is going to be played, they need to be consistent.
Stern wanted Curry to advance. It's a star driven league and that's how Stern wants it. An epic comeback, it would have been tied with what, around 12 seconds left, cut short by two of the most egregiously horrible calls I've ever seen.

But I agree, we lost the series because we didn't play good basketball for huge chunks of almost every game. And I am baffled by this. I honestly think SA will blow GS out. As we should have.

also, yeah, fuck Mark Jackson.

Stupid refs

we certainly got f----d last night by the officiating

Congrats to the Golden State Referees....er, Warriors

That was the worst officiated series I've ever seen. What a crock of sh*t.
Kudos to GSW for a good series, but that was laughable. Every one of those godda&mned refs is on the take, just like Donaghy. Guess Stern didn't bury ALL the bodies, huh?

Best 25k Mark Jackson ever spent
Who knew $25k could buy biased officiating in a clutch playoff game? Unfortunately Karl doesn't seem to care enough to do the same thing.
Games like this are why the NBA is so frustrating. I wholly agree that Denver put themselves in this position, but they deserve some credit for fighting hard and putting themselves into position to overcome their own mistakes. But no team should also have to overcome the refs mistakes as well. The refs absolutely killed Denver's momentum twice in the last 4 minutes. Get that charge call right, and that ending could have been much different. And that was a text book charge! It constantly feels like the Nuggets are battling two opponents a night. Been that way for years and years. And for god sakes, learn to shoot free throws!!!
I agree completely about them affecting the flow of the game. The refs took Faried out of the game with a bad call, and that hurt them in the 3rd quarter. Momentum is important in the NBA and Denver's poor play aside, it was the refs killing momentum on several occasions.
as bad as the Nuggets played in the 2nd, 3rd, and most of the 4th quarters, the game would have been tied inside of 30 seconds remaining and very possibly gone into overtime if the referees hadn't screwed up that out of bounds call. That ball didn't bounce on the line or out of bounds, and I'm pretty sure the referees know that. But they called it out anyway because one of them blew the whistle too damn early, anticipating that Brewer would not make the save, which he did. The Nuggets had actually made what should have been the game tying basket on that play.
GSW has no timeouts and a shaken psyche so much that they might have turned it over, or at the very least went to overtime. It would have been tough for them to score.

I know people can say "xxxx lost this series", but in the end the referees made crucial mistakes that ended up completely changing the outcome of this game... And it completely and utterly sucks.

Props where props are due

I would love to blame the two last calls, but it was so obvious our downfall would be FT shooting. GS went 23-24 while we went 13-21. The two last calls were terrible for sure, but we put ourselves constantly in close situations where we are dependent on the referrees decisions. The ball out of bounds at the end was close; I thought it was inbounds but still close. Sadly, GS executed the fundamentals better than we did, and deserved to win

GS has the deadly shooters to be able to open up the drives once their shots start falling. Once Curry went off in the 3rdQ - and you knew it was coming - our interior defense was forced to help and we got killed in the block.
Seeing Curry be just AUTOMATIC when he's open is a thing of beauty, but also the most frustrating thing EVER! (MISS ONE! haha). Good luck to y'all moving forward and thanks for your post, very classy.
Bogut had 21 rebounds. You can't blame the players here when the tallest guy on the court is 6'7 playing versus a 7 footer. Then add to that Andre Miller guarding Harrison Barnes. Seriously! That 3rd quarter killed us. But it started in the middle of the 2nd quarter when Brewer and Andre were the back court tandem. This team is weak. KK is not a serviceable 5 man. The guy is not a good finisher and gets pushed around by Carl Landry. SMH I am losing it. Time to get wasted.
Andrew Bogut would be the best big on the Nuggets and Curry would be the best player on the nuggets. Jarrett Jack would not be far off Ty's value or even a healthy Gallo (it should be pretty obvious from this series that ty is a below average defender) The FT shooting has been abysmal all season and played a significant role in losing this game.
I know that Lawson got fouled on that late layup and it had a bearing on the outcome of the game but blaming the refs is bush league. The refs didn't play poor defense and miss all those open 3′s throughout the series. The truth is that Golden State is the better team when it matters. The play of their rookies alone (Barnes & Green) was the difference in the series. Mark Jackson was not only a better coach in the series but throughout the regular season for he sacrificed wins and played his rookies so they would be ready for the playoffs and now it's paying dividends. The really depressing thing is that I don't know where the Nuggets go from here.
Bogut was huge. Hats off to him. Nuggets clearly lack an interior presence of his stature. Javale is never going to grow into that...but he will definitely improve if he gets a coach who believes in him and gives him enough minutes.
If we're being honest, and not taking anything away from Curry, but he takes shots JR Smith would call questionable. Difference was, he had the confidence to take them, knock them down, and it spread to the rest of his team.
Bogut was the difference in the series. He was the rim protector. Without him, the Nuggets blow their doors off.
Tough game indeed.. lots of bad calls both ways by the refs. Very sloppy on the Warriors side at the end, but what hurt the Nuggs the most was inability to score. Also started out really strong on the boards, but faded quickly .. whether it was Bogut on turbo, or something else, I dunno.

The W's deserve credit though. Bogut definitely came to play, and Curry just seems to turn on at the critical 3rd quarter. I still can't believe Draymond Green had a career night though and Barnes was so calm (as a rookie) hitting clutch free throws.

Overall, other than Games 2 and 4 which became blow-outs with crazy shooting by Curry (or in Game 2′s case, every Warrior), this series actually became fairly evenly matched. Would a healthier Faried and Gallinari have made a big diff? Possibly.. but then again, Bogut wasn't 100% and they lost Lee early.

As bad as the refs were, it's hard to look at the series as a whole and say Denver was the better team
Nuggs should not have been in that situation. Refs didn't cost Denver this series, their not bringing it until the 5th game did.
I've always felt a good amount of kinship with Warriors fans, really. The Nuggets and Warriors are both a couple of hard-luck franchises who've put their fans through a lot of suffering over the years. We're not spoiled brats, like fLakers or Spurs fans. Have fun watching the second round.

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